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Post by Comrade Tilly on Mar 25, 2009 17:42:07 GMT -5
In other words: if you connect some/all of the Zoids continuities, your favorite character A = character B's ancestor-type speculation! Crazy ideas are especially fun, especially if you come up with silly explanations as to how they happened. Mine are...um, mine are weird. Engage ramble mooode: - Van -> one of the Tigers (Lineback?), their bad luck being cosmic backlash for Van calling on the Power of Plot one too many times. Blame Rocke.
- Raven -> nobody. He never had kids, being an antisocial little bugger even after he reformed. I have him and Van as both dying young and heroic...well, more accurately, Van dies young and Raven goes reckless grouch on random people Camford doesn't like, having bcome her sort of...pet smite this remaining bit of unrest guy post-GF, because she both believes in giving second chances and in "behave or I lop off your organoid's head" ;p.
- Irvine -> Many background characters. And possibly Brad, but many background characters, because he was a wandering mercenary. (Blame Rocke for this one too.)
- Typical Sieg + Blade = Zero and Shadow + Breaker = BF, but with the twist they're...not aware of this any more, long since having merged into a single entity only thinking of itself as a Zoid, and long since having forgotten their omgfamily connections (besides, then one of the Tigers would have had the Zero in my headcontinuity XD). The Liger just liked Bit 'cause he was crazy enough to let it do whatever it wanted, BF went crazy because someone (Thomas, maybe?) stuck it inna box back when until they could figure out wtf to do with something that used to be now-dead Raven's Zoid.
- ...Specular + Malder = THE HOVER CARGO. Blame Steve.
- Bit = related to nobody, or possibly distantly related to Thomas, explaining his mechanic geek side (this is anime, everyone gets traits from their ancestors!). Plus then the BF has extra reason to hate him and the Zero :p.
- Vega = definitely related to nobody. He's just a kid. A genius kid with dark mop hair, but a kid nonetheless. </unpopular opinion>
- Harry = President Helic and Rosa's missing and unnamed kid from modelverse, who fell through continuity in the 80s. He is thus actually related to royalty (even if he doesn't know as much), and it explains his habit of being...overly dramatic when it comes to romance. I totally need to translate Helic's attempts at romantic speeches
they're special.
- Ray Gregg -> RD, on his mum's side. The Zero is one of his old ones, explaining why it didn't do the Alpha Zoid thing for RD's dad. Zeros as a whole I have as very stubborn and thus gaining their reputation as "junk"...they're incredibly powerful with a pilot they like, but good luck there. THEY BOTH HAVE RED EYES AND DARK HAIR OMG.
- Stoermer/Elena -> Hermann DOESN'T WORK IN THE ANIME LA LA LA
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Post by Daft Punksworth on Mar 25, 2009 21:32:42 GMT -5
I still think Geno Hydra would've been Specular's Geno evo. XD
I poked Irvine being Jack Cisco's ancestor. I think it was the similar hairstyle and lightning saix, and that's about it. XD
Then I do the oh so annoyingly popular Bit is Van's descendant, Vega is Raven's, because I'm unoriginal. XD
For the sake of a RP, I did Polta as Reese and Raven's descendant. XD
Though I love the Van -> Tigers idea and the reason behind that. XD It is epic.
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Post by Comrade kitsunefyn on Mar 26, 2009 10:58:00 GMT -5
Jeez Tilly, you had to get me thinking about this... I actually gave it some thought so here it goes: - Raven - I don't really know what would have happened to him after GF. Like everyone, I would like to think he settled down with Reese and had a child with her but after thinking it through, I'm not sure he would actually do that... And then their is the idea that he joined the GF after the story ends, I find it hard to believe that wouldn't send up red flags. Yes, maybe the core group of GF members approved an maybe even military brass did on the stipulation of join and reform or be jailed. But the common citizen wouldn't see it that way. I just don't see it flying... I could see him just disappearing after the series, disillusioned about himself (and those he associated himself with) and maybe never being seen again, with Reese following after him for more fun? I can't see her getting along with others either...
- Van -> No one, Well we all know him and Fiona got married and probably did have children. But if we were to follow the laws of this world ( maybe its different on Zi) the children created were probably sterile hybrids. (Though there have been cases of hybrids have offspring they've mostly been noted as being exceptionally weak health-wise and probably wouldn't have been able to reproduce themselves.) :B *Science geekery* Though Tilly, I do like yours too, Van and Fiona's descendants were cleverly hidden.
- Irvine-> Have to agree with you too Tilly, there could be multiple children and mothers involved in this. I think him and Moonbay would have gone there separate ways after GF, maybe meeting every once in a while and well... you know... *not sure if certain words break TOS* Besides I wonder what Moonbay did with her Ultrasaurus afterwards... Though we do see Moonbay's Gustave in New Century, supposedly... with the white armor part.
- Agree with you on LZ and BF, Specular... xD maybe if the Hover Cargo had psychic powers and a personality... I wonder what happen to Specular after GF, after all Reese didn't have a zoids after that.
- Jamie -> Rosso and Viola, we all know they had something for each other, though Jamie shares no visible traits with them, the Raynos and his second personality seem to fit the bill to me.
- Bit-> a Schubaltz/ Schwartz brother- The blond hair and green eyes? Unfortunately I think some intelligence/ sanity was lost somewhere down the line.
meh... that's it for now I think... maybe more later... I'll think on some Fuzors to Genesis ones. I personally think that Genesis was in the anime continuity, just wayyyyy after Fuzors. The one moon problem... the second one fell to Zi which gives the reason for epic mass apocalypse. |
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Post by GhostLiger on Mar 27, 2009 15:36:34 GMT -5
ROFL!
Lol, since it is anime, every main character from every Zoids series is probably related to Van in some way XD
I can't really think of any others right now... my brain's taken a leave of absence, but I like Celtic's Specular + Geno Saurer = Geno Hydra.
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Post by Daft Punksworth on Mar 28, 2009 19:27:04 GMT -5
I can't really think of any others right now... my brain's taken a leave of absence, but I like Celtic's Specular + Geno Saurer = Geno Hydra. Yay! Reese did use a blue GenoSaurer that, unless I'm mistaken, is the Psycho Genosaurer sold on Battle Legends, which is loaded with missile launchers. Geno Hydra had lots of missile launchers and is blue. Reese and Specular are "creepy" at least by many people's standards. A three headed zoid is "creepy". I'm just explaining my thoughts. XD I'd love to hear the thoughts and reasons for Malder -> HoverCargo. XD Because I'm not really seeing it at all and would like to understand. |
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Post by Comrade Tilly on Mar 29, 2009 17:01:57 GMT -5
Malder is a tiny snail with weapon compartments. Specular made a tiny Double Sworder big...so Specular in a Malder = giant snail with Zoid compartments = Hovercargo!
...um, yeah XD;
I actually give Riese a Hydra sometimes in Legacy, for the blue and because the poor Psycho Saurer's a bit crap.
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Post by Blaze on Mar 29, 2009 17:53:07 GMT -5
*Is late to thread* CURSE YOU FINALS!!!
Anyway... *cough* The Van -> tigers and Hover Cargo ones where totally great XD
I can see Irvine -> Sisco since they do have a lot of similar traits.
One of mine was Fiona -> Bit cuz of Bit being able to talk to Zero thing. Just totally made me think he had some ancient zoidian blood in him... and all the fan fics that were "ZOMG ZEKE IS LIGER ZERO! LOLZ!" >_>
Beast Wars Megatron -> Purple Berserk Fury lol
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Post by Comrade Tilly on Mar 29, 2009 20:22:28 GMT -5
Oh man, I've already been tempted to dub Megatron's YEEEEESSS over the BF. Probably Blake's, because...Fuzors jokes.
I just need to get things media editing working!
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Post by Blaze on Mar 29, 2009 21:48:41 GMT -5
Oh man, I've already been tempted to dub Megatron's YEEEEESSS over the BF. Probably Blake's, because...Fuzors jokes. I just need to get things media editing working! Dude you should! That would be so epic! XD |
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Post by Comrade ShadowRebirth37 on Jul 24, 2010 23:13:27 GMT -5
I think Bit is related to Karl or Thomas. Tilly's right about the geeky knows-his-way-with-tools bit. At least in my honest opinion. I have to say I'm a fan of the Raven/Reese being Vega's ancestor theory. I know I'll be shot for that one day, but I am. Leena... reminds me of Hiltz. I think its the hair. But she does. So there's my idea. Jamie reminds me so much of Rudolf for some odd reason, so that's my take on it. Brad has to be related to Irvine. Yeah, generic idea too. So sue me. ;P I think Doc is somehow related to Dr. D and Naomi is related to... I'm not sure about her, honestly.
Well, that's my two cents on the descendant theory. Not that its worth two cents. _A_
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Post by Daft Punksworth on Jul 25, 2010 16:39:08 GMT -5
Hiltz > Leena?! IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!  |
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Post by Comrade ShadowRebirth37 on Jul 25, 2010 19:04:28 GMT -5
lol. That's my take on it. Someone else on ff.net had the same idea, but I don't recall who. I mean really!! Wacky hair, psycho personality, domination issues. They HAVE to be related. XD
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Post by Comrade Matrixdragon on Jul 26, 2010 22:08:29 GMT -5
Oh good lord this topic. Soooo, I'm one of those fans that falls into the "typical" descendants category. Sorry, but I followed the bandwagon at a young age, and it just stuck. Also, I have a lot of internal conflict regarding the time span between CC/GF and NC0. Sometimes I make it 25 years, sometimes I make it 2000... O.o I believe that the creators definitely wanted NC0 to be considered a loose sequal to CC/GF, keyword here being "loose". There are obvious allusions and references to the past characters and events of CC/GF, but I seriously don't think they had in mind a definite time span. But for all intents and purposes, I believe that NC0 could have taken place after CC/GF in a relatively short period of time or relatively long period of time (I tend to lean toward the former more so than the latter). Van/Fiona = Bit. The tired and obvious one, yes. I agree with Shadow Blade, Bit's gotta have some Zoidian in him, which allowed him to bond with Zero so well. That, and Zero is.. uhh, Zeke >.< (see further down). He's the right age for the short time span theory, but his mysterious lack of parental units or family background leaves much up to question. Was never a fan of the Thomas or Karl = Bit thing though. It was a little too farfetched and impractical for me. Although I've fancied the notion of Van/Fiona = Leon, there's the little issue with the rest of the Toros fam and it kinda falls apart from there. Raven/Reese = Vega. Soooo I really like them. A lot. IMO, they're relationship developed in a plausible manner and they actually GREW as characters, unlike a lot of others who remained flat and stagnant for most of the series. I really do feel like they would've settled down eventually, after first coming to terms with their pasts, forgiving themselves, coming back into society, clearing things up with the GF, yadda yadda yadda. I don't think they would've joined the GF, but I don't think they would've made themselves enemies again either. Vega reflects Raven's innocence pre-Ambient-nom incident, as well as both his and Reese's piloting skills (I've always felt that Reese's piloting gets overshadowed. I mean, she whooped Van in her Saurer). And I'm sorry, but SARAH LOOKS SO MUCH LIKE AN OLDER REESE THAT IT MAKES ME INSANELY UNCOMFORTABLE. Just sayin'... Thomas = Harry. He's rich and he fails at life. 'Nuff said. Actually, not really. I've never really liked this theory, but my mind defaults to it all the time so I guess it can't be ignored. Zeke + Blade Liger = Liger Zero. Yeeeah. It explains why it was so attracted to Bit, as well as its overall personality and rivalry with the Fury. I also believe Zeke!Zero still has memories of not only his time with Van (Bladey's memory banks could be half-thanked for that), but also of his time on ancient pre-Deathy Zi with Fiona. But there's really nothing to support this claim, it's just my thoughts. I also love how Zero's three CAS's bear a striking resemblance to the three main zoids of GF... Coincidence? Hrmm. Shadow + Geno Breaker = Berserk Fury. Again, alot of my theories for the Liger Zero apply to the Fury too. Explains its connection to Vega and its rivalry with Zero. And whose to say hedgeclippers of doom can't turn into eggbeaters of wrath? Specula + Geno Saurer = Gairyuki. No, not the Fuzors one; Fuzors appears to have no continuity between CC/GF/NC0 at all, and I'm not much of a fan of it really. No no, this is just me being crazy. I've always imagined Speccy's and the Saurer's evolved form as beign the Gairyuki. It seemed plausible enough for me. Although, how Reese acquires a new Saurer for Specula to fuze to and evolve with is another question. But hey, if her old dead one is still lying around in some rubble there, who's to stop Speccy from firing up its core and stickin' to it? I can't really pinpoint any descendants for Irvine and Moonbay, even though Brad and Jack seem like worthy candidates. I've never really thought much of them together, but I won't deny that they probably end up together, if not for a little while. They just seem to enjoy flirting.  So yeah, those are my theories. END RANT. Sorry if my notions posed more questions than anything, I just like to point stuff out and leave it up to interpretation. |
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Post by Comrade ShadowRebirth37 on Jul 26, 2010 22:13:39 GMT -5
That made me laugh so hard, sorry, but it did. XD Yeah, I'm with Llama on that one. Raven + Reese= Vega. No doubt about it. I mean, I wrote a whole fic about it and the Ultimate Xs' origins via the Organoids!!
I'm still sticking to my guns on the Hiltz= Leena idea. I mean really, that kinda craziness just doesn't happen, you gotta have it in your blood. ;P
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Post by Comrade Matrixdragon on Jul 26, 2010 22:22:49 GMT -5
Bahaha. The image of half-dead Hiltz crawling from the Deathy wreckage and spawning hell-child Leena makes me lol. But hey, I guess it's not too farfetched. And there is that Hiltz -> Brad theory that a certain someone started way back when...
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